I was thinking of renaming the split articles as "Current Timeline" and "Pre-Super Genesis Wave Timeline", or perhaps something else. I don't think the tabs for the articles need acronyms like Pre-SGW. Any thoughts? Diamonddeath (talk) 21:58, April 5, 2016 (UTC)
I prefer the way it is at the moment, but that's just my opinion.Wikification (talk) 02:13, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
The major reason I want to rename it is because I want the articles to be understandable for new readers/fans. A new reader/fan joining the book after the reboot won't know what "Post-SGW" and "Pre-SGW" mean, regardless if they know there was a reboot. Even if it used the full title of "Post-Super Genesis Wave" and "Pre-Super Genesis Wave", a new reader/fan might not know what those are or what they even mean. So, I thought it would be way easier to understand for new readers/fans if the split articles were given titles that helped to better define what they actually are. Some ideas for titles that are self explanatory and not confusing for "Post-SGW" are "Current Timeline", "New Timeline", and "Current" and for "Pre-SGW" are "Previous Timeline", "Old Timeline", "Original Timeline", and "Pre-Reboot". Diamonddeath (talk) 02:06, April 8, 2016 (UTC)
- I noticed this days ago. Sorry for not replying. Now to respond:
The major reason I want to rename it is because I want the articles to be understandable for new readers/fans. A new reader/fan joining the book after the reboot won't know what "Post-SGW" and "Pre-SGW" mean, regardless if they know there was a reboot.
- Which brings me to the new idea I was about to propose. Since we are modeling the Star Wars wiki with splitting articles, I wanted you to notice the icons at the top right of Luke Skywalker's articles there. Do you see the words "Canon" and "Legends"? Similarly, since we are also splitting up articles, I wanted to use those icons the same way here. Perhaps, on Sonic the Hedgehog/Pre-SGW's article, an icon such as "Pre-Super Genesis Wave" can be used to notify users which page they are on, and what "Pre-SGW" means.
Even if it used the full title of "Post-Super Genesis Wave" and "Pre-Super Genesis Wave", a new reader/fan might not know what those are or what they even mean.
- The icons would also link to the Pre-Super Genesis Wave Timeline and Post-Super Genesis Wave Timeline articles as well. Though, I agree with Wikification. Article titles such as "Sonic the Hedgehog/Pre-Super Genesis Wave" can prove to be too long and too inconvenient for editors and readers alike. But again, that's my opinion. I still do propose to use the icons at the top for further disambiguation for the readers just like the Star Wars wiki does. ★WindStar7125 19:00, April 9, 2016 (UTC)
- I've implemented the icons. You can hover over them and click on them as well, and others who visit the site can, just so they know what "Post-Super Genesis Wave" and "Pre-Super Genesis Wave" mean. Regardless of the icons however, I'll understand if the title renaming is still up for contention. ★WindStar7125 19:33, April 11, 2016 (UTC)
- Those icons are great. As for the renaming, I'm referring to the titles of the tabs and not of the articles. If we can make the tabs change to something more easily understandable, each page would have the appropriate icon in the upper right. For example, if I don't know what Post-Super Genesis Wave and Pre-Super Genesis Wave means, I'd be confused. If I saw the tabs say something like Current Timeline and Original Timeline, and the icons in the upper right for each individual article saying either Post-Super Genesis Wave or Pre-Super Genesis Wave, I'd more easily able to understand the connection that the icon titles and therefore the phrases are associated with the timelines. Therefore, I still propose we change the names of the tabs, but the articles using the Pre-SGW in the names are fine, since they are merged with their newer title names anyway. Basically, I was never talking about the article names. I was talking about the tabs themselves. Huh, I guess I made that unclear. Sorry about that. Diamonddeath (talk) 03:05, April 16, 2016 (UTC)
- Lol, that's a really simple fix. XD So I guess I'll implement the icons on every page possible then. ^^ ★WindStar7125 03:09, April 16, 2016 (UTC)
Ok, cool! Before you do, I wanted to discuss what the best names for the tabs would be. I think "Current" and "Original" might be simple and effective, but perhaps the word "Timeline" should be added to them? As for the icons, I think it's a great idea, but is there a way to make the image a link to the article on the Super Genesis Wave itself? Hmmm... I think "Post Super Genesis Wave" and "Pre Super Genesis Wave" work well for the icon texts. A bit off topic, but is there a way to reformat the messages like the ones that appear on the top of an article and claim the article is exclusive to the Pre Super Genesis Wave timeline to have all the text to the right of the image instead of just the first line? It looks odd having the text on the next line start from under the image all the way to the left. Does that make sense? Diamonddeath (talk) 03:15, April 16, 2016 (UTC)
Before you do, I wanted to discuss what the best names for the tabs would be. I think "Current" and "Original" might be simple and effective, but perhaps the word "Timeline" should be added to them?
- I'm really fine with whatever you and others come up with. My only concern is that not many are willing to discuss things on this wiki, apparently... :/
As for the icons, I think it's a great idea, but is there a way to make the image a link to the article on the Super Genesis Wave itself? Hmmm... I think "Post Super Genesis Wave" and "Pre Super Genesis Wave" work well for the icon texts.
- Why link to the Genesis Wave article? I think it be more ideal to have the icons link to the Post-Super Genesis Wave Timeline and Pre-Super Genesis Wave Timeline articles. I think that both timeline articles should just link to the Genesis Wave article in the introducing sentence after readers click on the icon, like this and this.
A bit off topic, but is there a way to reformat the messages like the ones that appear on the top of an article and claim the article is exclusive to the Pre Super Genesis Wave timeline to have all the text to the right of the image instead of just the first line? It looks odd having the text on the next line start from under the image all the way to the left. Does that make sense?
- I'm not getting what you're saying here exactly... are you referring to the messages that appear when one hovers over the icon? If so, what exactly do you want me to do? ★WindStar7125 03:29, April 16, 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, that's why I started messaging you. Sure, let's have them link to their respective articles. I didn't realize they each had their own. As for the off topic comment, I was referring to this. I changed it by adding "left" to the image so that the text would reformat to the right of the image. Is there a way to align the text to appear to the center in relation to the image instead of to the top, if that makes any sense? Diamonddeath (talk) 03:36, April 16, 2016 (UTC)
- Taking a wild guess here: so you would want something like "The subject of this article appeared before/after the Super Genesis Wave" to physically appear next to the icon at the top? ★WindStar7125 03:45, April 16, 2016 (UTC)
What do you mean? Are you referring to the icon? Diamonddeath (talk) 04:21, April 16, 2016 (UTC)
- Guess my wild guess was wrong. I'm not entirely certain of what you want, sorry. ^^ Reformat the messages how? And which messages? ★WindStar7125 04:25, April 16, 2016 (UTC)
It looks pretty good how it is right now, but I'm wondering if text like that can be placed above the image logos a bit smaller as part of the image. Diamonddeath (talk) 15:01, April 22, 2016 (UTC)